"I think your family wants you home for Thanksgiving and I think you should testify", she said at another point. "I think he may have done something during the election". He called White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders a "joke" and a "fat slob", referred to Carter Page as a "moron", and suggested President Donald Trump knew about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting that his son and son-in-law attended with a Kremlin-linked lawyer.
It was not clear - at all - what the "something" was.
"I think they may", he responded.
During Monday's interviews, Nunberg oscillated between saying Trump hadn't colluded and suggesting he might have had some arrangement with Russian Federation. "I'm not paying the money to go down there".
"I really could care less what the Trump White House has to say about me", Nunberg said. Given the roles each has played in Trump's recent life, it is clear that the president remains in Mueller's legal crosshairs.
During the 17-minute interview, Nunberg called the investigation a "witch hunt", questioned what Mueller could do to him for refusing the subpoena, and, based on his interview with investigators, speculated that Mueller may have already collected incriminating information about Trump. "There's something. Drinking I believe is a big part of it and that's what happened yesterday".
Let's keep several things in mind.
The special counsel office had no comment.
Nunberg spent hours hopping from media outlet to media outlet - an odd strategy, given that one of his arguments for defying the subpoena was that he didn't have the time to search through the emails the grand jury requested. In 2005, Judith Miller, who was an investigative reporter at the New York Times, refused to give up the name of a source during the investigation into who divulged the identity of Valerie Plame, an undercover Central Intelligence Agency operative. What is freakish is not necessarily newsworthy - or worth turning over hours upon hours of cable TV time. So far, Mueller's investigation has led to the indictment of 13 Russians and multiple former campaign officials, including Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Richard Pinedo and Alex van der Zwaan.
The only ways to avoid a grand jury subpoena are invoking the Constitutional right to avoid self-incrimination or claiming attorney-client or executive privilege, but these are not always successful. If Mueller did offer Nunberg immunity, it can only mean that Mueller desperately needs Nunberg's testimony against the president to be recounted to one of his grand juries, and that Nunberg has some criminal exposure.
Finally, Nunberg reminds us that Trump's circle includes a disproportionate number of unhinged, unschooled self-promoters.